writing their own codes. In fact, that is kind what used to be a long
time ago...but then people started working in broader geographic areas and
they did not want to have to deal with dozens of different codes. Still,
there is nothing stopping the federal government from writing a National
Building Code (the Constitution may stop the federal government from
forcing that code on all the states...so called "states' rights" and all),
except all the people who don't want to pay taxes for things that benefit
us all but most don't consider a priority (everyone sure likes a nice,
well built road, but don't seem to want to pay the taxes that support the
building of those roads and other such things). Anyways, good luck on
getting Congress to agree to do that when they can seem to do the more
visiable things like immigration and healthcare.
Regards,
Scott
Adrian, MI
On Fri, 6 Jul 2007, Donald Bruckman wrote:
>
> This all gets back to our discussion last month about code costs. When you
> think about it, the free enterprise approach to code writing, (i.e. private
> companies like ICC doing code writing) is really antithetical to true
> quality engineering. It's the equivalent of Apple vs Microsoft, open code
> vs proprietary code. How many engineers would just choose to ignore some
> obscure and minor requirement hidden in a $2000 code they knew would have
> minimal effect on the overall design?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Wright [mailto:chrisw@skypoint.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:34 AM
> To: seaint@seaint.org
> Subject: Re: View proposed ACI 318 revisions
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Garner, Robert wrote:
>
>> With Codes becoming available electronically, how about a
>> consortium of a group of engineers that collectively buy and
>> "share" the codes electronically. Only one engineer could view any
>> one of the codes at a time but with a good share schedule set up,
>> it might work. As it is now, the AWS code is not in my budget so I
>> can't see it anytime. Being able to at least see it between 4:00
>> and 6:00 pm on Wednesdays and Thursdays is better than nothing.
>> Sort of a Code "time share".
> I think this is a damn good idea. Something like it might be a reason
> to keep up membership in technical societies. I don't know how the
> ASCE or the ACI fares these days, but the ASME is falling on
> increasingly harder times, primarily because there's fewer reasons to
> belong. Students flock in because it looks good on a resume and the
> dues aren't very high, but membership by experienced engineers tapers
> off really fast, except for dyed-in-the-wool joiners.
>
> One of the things they should do is offer on-line Code access to
> members as a perk of membership. Full purchase of all umpteen volumes
> of the Boiler Code is close to $2000. and the codes are re-issued
> every 3 years. There are good reasons for some people to have
> personal copies, but many of us can't possibly justify 2 grand every
> three years on the off chance that we might need something in some
> obscure section. The ASME, like every other society, makes pretty
> good money in the publishing business, but they need to look further
> than the end of their collective noses when it comes to member
> benefits. Code access, even limited to so many log-ons a month, would
> be a good one.
>
> Christopher Wright P.E. |"They couldn't hit an elephant at
> chrisw@skypoint.com | this distance" (last words of Gen.
> .......................................| John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania
> 1864)
> http://www.skypoint.com/~chrisw/
>
>
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