Structural Engineering: 2008-03-02

Saturday, March 8, 2008

Re: 3x studs in (E) stud wall (Remodel)

what is interesting about this is that we must use 3x studs for many shear walls but for us in CA, this means 3x4 studs; i.e. we don't use them sideways.

Stan Scholl,P.E.
Laguna Beach, CA
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Re: Enforcement Question

Gary,

Somewhere along the line I'm sure there is an authority that can
act. If it's not the Village it's the County; if it's not the county it's
the State (or in Canada's case, it's the Province); otherwise there would be
no rule of law in the land.

In Alberta's case we have the Province of Alberta Safety Codes Act.
The 1995 edition of this act provides for a maximum fine of $10,000 for a
safety violation of the building code plus $1,000 per day that the situation
remains unsafe for a first offence and double those values for subsequent
offences. Surprisingly, it's the Contractor who is on the hook for the
fines not the Design Professional. Mind you, I expect that the courts would
allow the Contractor to recover his losses (at least the initial fine but
probably not the fine for delay in correcting the safety violation) from an
incompetent or negligent design professional in at least some cases. I'd be
surprised (make that astonished) if all other states and provinces didn't
also have similar legislation in place.

Regards,

H. Daryl Richardson

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary L. Hodgson and Assoc." <ghodgson@bellnet.ca>
To: <seaint@seaint.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: Enforcement Question

> Why does the local authority have to have an ordinance to act. Do they
> not have to enforce the building code? The authority has to protect the
> public even if the retaining wall is on private property. What about
> children? Also, Paul has an obligation as an engineer to protect the
> public and the very first thing I would do if I were in his shoes would be
> to write a letter to the municipalty, the owner and send copies to my
> lawyer and the city's lawyer. Been there, done that.
> Gary
>
> Haan, Scott M POA wrote:
>> If the local government does not have an ordinance giving them authority
>> to
>> action against a dangerous structure / condition on private property then
>> they have no jurisdiction to due anything about. You can report it but
>> it
>> isn't going to help.
>>
>> Most local governments will at least have some kind of law to get rid of
>> "attractive nuisances" which are like abandoned buildings that attract
>> kids
>> but are dangerous or attract vagrants etc... I don't think a retaining
>> wall
>> would be considered an attractive nuisance.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Daryl Richardson [mailto:h.d.richardson@shaw.ca] Sent: Friday,
>> March 07, 2008 8:24 AM
>> To: seaint@seaint.org
>> Subject: Re: Enforcement Question
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> It might be interesting to see what would happen if you called
>> the
>> local television station, or maybe even the local police, since it is a
>> situation where someone could get very badly hurt.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> H. Daryl Richardson
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul Feather" <PFeather@se-solutions.net>
>> To: <seaint@seaint.org>
>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:58 AM
>> Subject: RE: Enforcement Question
>>
>>
>> To quote the report "failure of the retaining wall is inevitable, the
>> only uncertainty is when".
>>
>> They still want nothing to do with it.
>>
>> Paul Feather PE, SE
>> pfeather@SE-Solutions.net
>> www.SE-Solutions.net
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sscholl2@juno.com [mailto:sscholl2@juno.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:46 PM
>> To: seaint@seaint.org
>> Subject: Re: Enforcement Question
>>
>> I believe the key is whether or not you indicated to the City: a
>> potentially dangerous condition; i.e. the possibility of the wall
>> falling down.
>>
>> Stan Scholl, P.E.
>> Laguna Beach, CA
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Re: Enforcement Question

Why does the local authority have to have an ordinance to act. Do they
not have to enforce the building code? The authority has to protect the
public even if the retaining wall is on private property. What about
children? Also, Paul has an obligation as an engineer to protect the
public and the very first thing I would do if I were in his shoes would
be to write a letter to the municipalty, the owner and send copies to my
lawyer and the city's lawyer. Been there, done that.
Gary

Haan, Scott M POA wrote:
> If the local government does not have an ordinance giving them authority to
> action against a dangerous structure / condition on private property then
> they have no jurisdiction to due anything about. You can report it but it
> isn't going to help.
>
> Most local governments will at least have some kind of law to get rid of
> "attractive nuisances" which are like abandoned buildings that attract kids
> but are dangerous or attract vagrants etc... I don't think a retaining wall
> would be considered an attractive nuisance.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daryl Richardson [mailto:h.d.richardson@shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:24 AM
> To: seaint@seaint.org
> Subject: Re: Enforcement Question
>
> Paul,
>
> It might be interesting to see what would happen if you called the
> local television station, or maybe even the local police, since it is a
> situation where someone could get very badly hurt.
>
> Regards,
>
> H. Daryl Richardson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Feather" <PFeather@se-solutions.net>
> To: <seaint@seaint.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:58 AM
> Subject: RE: Enforcement Question
>
>
> To quote the report "failure of the retaining wall is inevitable, the
> only uncertainty is when".
>
> They still want nothing to do with it.
>
> Paul Feather PE, SE
> pfeather@SE-Solutions.net
> www.SE-Solutions.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sscholl2@juno.com [mailto:sscholl2@juno.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:46 PM
> To: seaint@seaint.org
> Subject: Re: Enforcement Question
>
> I believe the key is whether or not you indicated to the City: a
> potentially dangerous condition; i.e. the possibility of the wall
> falling down.
>
> Stan Scholl, P.E.
> Laguna Beach, CA
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Friday, March 7, 2008

Re: Seismic Design Manual Examples

It seems strange to me that these examples would not include arguably the most important component of the design. After all, what good is even the strongest shear wall/moment frame/braced frame if it can not be attached to the ground. Why would they leave this out?

This reminds me of the South Park Underpants Gnomes episode - Phase 1, Collect Underpants; Phase 2, ?; Phase 3, Profit.

What a joke.

----- Original Message -----

From: Nels Roselund

To: seaint@seaint.org

Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 4:39 PM

Subject: RE: Seismic Design Manual Examples

Go to the Simpson website [www.strongtie.org], click on RESOURCES; at OTHER TECHNICAL RESOURCES, click on SOFTWARE. For ANCHOR DESIGNER, at ANCHOR SYSTEMS, click on DOWNLOAD THIS SOFTWARE.

Nels Roselund, SE

From: Michel Blangy [mailto:mblangy@satco-inc.com]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:48 PM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: RE: Seismic Design Manual Examples

I believe you are referring to ESR-1917 for Hilti and ESR-1771 for Simpson. That's about all I can find.

Thanks for the help,

Michel Blangy, P.E.

Michel,

I don't know about all of the Seismic Design Manuals, but Simpson and Hilti (and probably others) have ICBO ER documents which can be found on the web. There are example calcs. in some of them. There is also the software from these two suppliers which produces fairly well-documented results (e.i it shows the calculations). Not only that, you don't have to go looking for the errata like you do with the SDMs.

HTH
MJ

RE: Enforcement Question

That is if there is a building department. Lots of places don't have a
building official.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nels Roselund [mailto:njineer@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:51 PM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: RE: Enforcement Question

Section 115 of the IBC gives the building official authority to take action
on an unsafe structure, and defines the official's procedure. Also see
Section 3410.3.1

Nels Roselund, SE
Rosemead, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: Haan, Scott M POA [mailto:Scott.M.Haan@usace.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:38 AM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: RE: Enforcement Question

If the local government does not have an ordinance giving them authority to
action against a dangerous structure / condition on private property then
they have no jurisdiction to due anything about. You can report it but it
isn't going to help.

Most local governments will at least have some kind of law to get rid of
"attractive nuisances" which are like abandoned buildings that attract kids
but are dangerous or attract vagrants etc... I don't think a retaining wall
would be considered an attractive nuisance.

-----Original Message-----
From: Daryl Richardson [mailto:h.d.richardson@shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:24 AM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: Re: Enforcement Question

Paul,

It might be interesting to see what would happen if you called the
local television station, or maybe even the local police, since it is a
situation where someone could get very badly hurt.

Regards,

H. Daryl Richardson

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Feather" <PFeather@se-solutions.net>
To: <seaint@seaint.org>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: Enforcement Question

To quote the report "failure of the retaining wall is inevitable, the only
uncertainty is when".

They still want nothing to do with it.

Paul Feather PE, SE
pfeather@SE-Solutions.net
www.SE-Solutions.net

-----Original Message-----
From: sscholl2@juno.com [mailto:sscholl2@juno.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:46 PM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: Re: Enforcement Question

I believe the key is whether or not you indicated to the City: a potentially
dangerous condition; i.e. the possibility of the wall falling down.

Stan Scholl, P.E.
Laguna Beach, CA
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RE: Seismic Design Manual Examples

Go to the Simpson website [www.strongtie.org], click on RESOURCES; at OTHER TECHNICAL RESOURCES, click on SOFTWARE. For ANCHOR DESIGNER, at ANCHOR SYSTEMS, click on DOWNLOAD THIS SOFTWARE.

Nels Roselund, SE

From: Michel Blangy [mailto:mblangy@satco-inc.com]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:48 PM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: RE: Seismic Design Manual Examples

I believe you are referring to ESR-1917 for Hilti and ESR-1771 for Simpson. That's about all I can find.

Thanks for the help,

Michel Blangy, P.E.

Michel,

I don't know about all of the Seismic Design Manuals, but Simpson and Hilti (and probably others) have ICBO ER documents which can be found on the web. There are example calcs. in some of them. There is also the software from these two suppliers which produces fairly well-documented results (e.i it shows the calculations). Not only that, you don't have to go looking for the errata like you do with the SDMs.

HTH
MJ

RE: Seismic Design Manual Examples

I believe you are referring to ESR-1917 for Hilti and ESR-1771 for Simpson. That's about all I can find.

Thanks for the help,

Michel Blangy, P.E.

Michel,

I don't know about all of the Seismic Design Manuals, but Simpson and Hilti (and probably others) have ICBO ER documents which can be found on the web. There are example calcs. in some of them. There is also the software from these two suppliers which produces fairly well-documented results (e.i it shows the calculations). Not only that, you don't have to go looking for the errata like you do with the SDMs.

HTH
MJ

RE: Enforcement Question

Section 115 of the IBC gives the building official authority to take action
on an unsafe structure, and defines the official's procedure. Also see
Section 3410.3.1

Nels Roselund, SE
Rosemead, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: Haan, Scott M POA [mailto:Scott.M.Haan@usace.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:38 AM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: RE: Enforcement Question

-----Original Message-----
From: Daryl Richardson [mailto:h.d.richardson@shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:24 AM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: Re: Enforcement Question

Paul,

It might be interesting to see what would happen if you called the
local television station, or maybe even the local police, since it is a
situation where someone could get very badly hurt.

Regards,

H. Daryl Richardson

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Feather" <PFeather@se-solutions.net>
To: <seaint@seaint.org>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: Enforcement Question

To quote the report "failure of the retaining wall is inevitable, the
only uncertainty is when".

They still want nothing to do with it.

Paul Feather PE, SE
pfeather@SE-Solutions.net
www.SE-Solutions.net

-----Original Message-----
From: sscholl2@juno.com [mailto:sscholl2@juno.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:46 PM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: Re: Enforcement Question

I believe the key is whether or not you indicated to the City: a
potentially dangerous condition; i.e. the possibility of the wall
falling down.

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Re: Using Wood-Framed Conventional Construction as a Lateral Shear Resisting ...

Gary

You are correct I did not read the subtitle before my fingers got carried away. But from a contractors perspective that is even worse. Thank you

Joe Venuti
Johnson & Nielsen Associates
Palm Springs, CA

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If you can think of anyone looking to head back east, our office is located in downtown Boston with easy access to public transportation. Your help would be greatly appreciated!

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RE: Employment opportunity

Jeff,

Not sure I follow the connection. Our website is about ten years out of date, but we are a small office.

Paul Feather PE, SE

pfeather@SE-Solutions.net

www.SE-Solutions.net

From: Jeff Coronado [mailto:jeff@jcseconsultants.com]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:25 AM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: Re: Employment opportunity

Don't know who these guys are but here is an example of a small office website

Jeff Coronado, S.E.
Jeff Coronado Structural Engineering Consultants
553 St Malo Street
West Covina, CA 91790
626-472-0070
626-472-0071 Fax
jeff@jcseconsultants.com
Website: www.jcseconsultants.com

----- Original Message -----

From: Paul Feather

To: seaint@seaint.org

Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:13 AM

Subject: Employment opportunity

SE-Solutions, Inc. is in need of a mid-level engineer. We work with all materials and various types of construction projects, but predominantly higher end and larger scale. We do not do single family residential or strip malls / chains (no criticism implied to those who do, it just isn’t our focus).

A PE candidate is preferred, but does not necessarily have to be a CA PE.

We offer an exceptional work environment, salary, and benefits. We are looking for a career minded individual with future associate ownership aspirations.

We are located in the Temecula area of Southern California, but work on projects throughout the Western States.

I know most of you on this list are fairly well set in your positions, but if you are associated with a likely candidate who may be looking for an opportunity, and are not in a position to hire them yourselves, I would appreciate if you could share our need.

Thanks,

Paul Feather PE, SE

pfeather@SE-Solutions.net

www.SE-Solutions.net

951-699-2666

Re: Enforcement Question

You might even try your local fire department. Worked for me once.

Neil Moore, SE, SECB

At 10:04 AM 3/7/2008, you wrote:

>On Mar 7, 2008, at 11:37 AM, Haan, Scott M POA wrote:
>
>>If the local government does not have an ordinance giving them
>>authority to
>>action against a dangerous structure / condition on private
>>property then
>>they have no jurisdiction to due anything about.
>I bet you'd get some atention if you sent the building official a
>written memorandum of the situation and conspicuously copied your
>lawyer and the state department that looks after such things. Nothing
>turns heads like a visible audit trail.
>
>Christopher Wright P.E. |"They couldn't hit an elephant at
>chrisw@skypoint.com | this distance" (last words of Gen.
>.......................................| John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania
>1864)
>http://www.skypoint.com/~chrisw/
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RE: Enforcement Question

If there is a building department you would. A local government can only
have a building department if there is an ordinance giving the local
government to enforce building codes. Some local governments don't have this
authority.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Wright [mailto:chrisw@skypoint.com]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:04 AM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: Re: Enforcement Question

On Mar 7, 2008, at 11:37 AM, Haan, Scott M POA wrote:

> If the local government does not have an ordinance giving them
> authority to action against a dangerous structure / condition on
> private property then they have no jurisdiction to due anything about.
I bet you'd get some atention if you sent the building official a written
memorandum of the situation and conspicuously copied your lawyer and the
state department that looks after such things. Nothing turns heads like a
visible audit trail.

Christopher Wright P.E. |"They couldn't hit an elephant at
chrisw@skypoint.com | this distance" (last words of Gen.
.......................................| John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania
1864)
http://www.skypoint.com/~chrisw/

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Re: Employment opportunity

Don't know who these guys are but here is an example of a small office website

Jeff Coronado, S.E.
Jeff Coronado Structural Engineering Consultants
553 St Malo Street
West Covina, CA 91790
626-472-0070
626-472-0071 Fax
jeff@jcseconsultants.com
Website: www.jcseconsultants.com

----- Original Message -----

From: Paul Feather

To: seaint@seaint.org

Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:13 AM

Subject: Employment opportunity

SE-Solutions, Inc. is in need of a mid-level engineer. We work with all materials and various types of construction projects, but predominantly higher end and larger scale. We do not do single family residential or strip malls / chains (no criticism implied to those who do, it just isn't our focus).

A PE candidate is preferred, but does not necessarily have to be a CA PE.

We offer an exceptional work environment, salary, and benefits. We are looking for a career minded individual with future associate ownership aspirations.

We are located in the Temecula area of Southern California, but work on projects throughout the Western States.

I know most of you on this list are fairly well set in your positions, but if you are associated with a likely candidate who may be looking for an opportunity, and are not in a position to hire them yourselves, I would appreciate if you could share our need.

Thanks,

Paul Feather PE, SE

pfeather@SE-Solutions.net

www.SE-Solutions.net

951-699-2666

RE: Employment opportunity

Paul:

Given the weather here in Chicago, I may just throw my hat into the ring.

Good luck,

David L. Fisher SE PE

Senior Director

The Fisher Companies Ltd. - Cayman

372 West Ontario Chicago 60610

75 Fort Street Georgetown Grand Cayman BWI

319 A Street Boston 02210

312.573.1701

312.573.1726 facsimile

312.622.0409 mobile

www.thefishercompanies.com

www.fpse.com

From: Paul Feather [mailto:PFeather@se-solutions.net]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:14 PM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: Employment opportunity

SE-Solutions, Inc. is in need of a mid-level engineer. We work with all materials and various types of construction projects, but predominantly higher end and larger scale. We do not do single family residential or strip malls / chains (no criticism implied to those who do, it just isn’t our focus).

A PE candidate is preferred, but does not necessarily have to be a CA PE.

We offer an exceptional work environment, salary, and benefits. We are looking for a career minded individual with future associate ownership aspirations.

We are located in the Temecula area of Southern California, but work on projects throughout the Western States.

I know most of you on this list are fairly well set in your positions, but if you are associated with a likely candidate who may be looking for an opportunity, and are not in a position to hire them yourselves, I would appreciate if you could share our need.

Thanks,

Paul Feather PE, SE

pfeather@SE-Solutions.net

www.SE-Solutions.net

951-699-2666

Employment opportunity

A PE candidate is preferred, but does not necessarily have to be a CA PE.

We offer an exceptional work environment, salary, and benefits. We are looking for a career minded individual with future associate ownership aspirations.

We are located in the Temecula area of Southern California, but work on projects throughout the Western States.

Thanks,

Paul Feather PE, SE

pfeather@SE-Solutions.net

www.SE-Solutions.net

951-699-2666

Re: Enforcement Question

Scott,

I'd be surprised if the local authorities can't take some action to
alleviate a dangerous situation. In any event, publicizing it on television
would make it interesting.

Regards,

H. Daryl Richardson

----- Original Message -----
From: "Haan, Scott M POA" <Scott.M.Haan@usace.army.mil>
To: <seaint@seaint.org>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: Enforcement Question

-----Original Message-----
From: Daryl Richardson [mailto:h.d.richardson@shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:24 AM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: Re: Enforcement Question

Paul,

It might be interesting to see what would happen if you called the
local television station, or maybe even the local police, since it is a
situation where someone could get very badly hurt.

Regards,

H. Daryl Richardson

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Feather" <PFeather@se-solutions.net>
To: <seaint@seaint.org>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: Enforcement Question

To quote the report "failure of the retaining wall is inevitable, the
only uncertainty is when".

They still want nothing to do with it.

Paul Feather PE, SE
pfeather@SE-Solutions.net
www.SE-Solutions.net

-----Original Message-----
From: sscholl2@juno.com [mailto:sscholl2@juno.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:46 PM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: Re: Enforcement Question

I believe the key is whether or not you indicated to the City: a
potentially dangerous condition; i.e. the possibility of the wall
falling down.

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Re: Enforcement Question

On Mar 7, 2008, at 11:37 AM, Haan, Scott M POA wrote:

> If the local government does not have an ordinance giving them
> authority to
> action against a dangerous structure / condition on private
> property then
> they have no jurisdiction to due anything about.
I bet you'd get some atention if you sent the building official a
written memorandum of the situation and conspicuously copied your
lawyer and the state department that looks after such things. Nothing
turns heads like a visible audit trail.

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Calif. Seismic Retrofit Bill SB 1508

To all California engineers,

Relating to residential seismic retrofits, a bill was just introduced by
Senator Corbett that would mandate the following:
1. The state establishes standards for cripple-wall retrofits (which
would go beyond the very basic details found in IEBC Appendix A3) and
provides a commentary that explains those standards
2. The above standards are adopted into the CA Building Code by 2011
3. The Contractor's State License Board (CSLB) adopts a training
program for retrofit contactors
4. The CSLB establishes a specialty license for seismic retrofit
contractors
5. No earthquakes may occur before the above goes into effect (okay,
kidding on this last one...)

This is a bill that deserves our support--please urge your legislators to
support it!

Find more info at:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/sen/sb_1501-1550/sb_1508_bill_20080221_introduced.pdf

Thor Matteson, SE
www.shearwalls.com

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RE: Enforcement Question

Now there is a viewpoint I did not consider. I know we have the
attractive nuisance laws, but I am uncertain beyond that. Thanks Scott.

Paul Feather PE, SE
pfeather@SE-Solutions.net
www.SE-Solutions.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Haan, Scott M POA [mailto:Scott.M.Haan@usace.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:38 AM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: RE: Enforcement Question

If the local government does not have an ordinance giving them authority
to
action against a dangerous structure / condition on private property
then
they have no jurisdiction to due anything about. You can report it but
it
isn't going to help.

Most local governments will at least have some kind of law to get rid of
"attractive nuisances" which are like abandoned buildings that attract
kids
but are dangerous or attract vagrants etc... I don't think a retaining
wall
would be considered an attractive nuisance.

-----Original Message-----
From: Daryl Richardson [mailto:h.d.richardson@shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:24 AM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: Re: Enforcement Question

Paul,

It might be interesting to see what would happen if you called
the
local television station, or maybe even the local police, since it is a
situation where someone could get very badly hurt.

Regards,

H. Daryl Richardson

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Feather" <PFeather@se-solutions.net>
To: <seaint@seaint.org>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: Enforcement Question

To quote the report "failure of the retaining wall is inevitable, the
only uncertainty is when".

They still want nothing to do with it.

Paul Feather PE, SE
pfeather@SE-Solutions.net
www.SE-Solutions.net

-----Original Message-----
From: sscholl2@juno.com [mailto:sscholl2@juno.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:46 PM
To: seaint@seaint.org
Subject: Re: Enforcement Question

I believe the key is whether or not you indicated to the City: a
potentially dangerous condition; i.e. the possibility of the wall
falling down.

******* ****** ****** ****** ******* ****** ****** ********

Re: Seismic Design Manual Examples

Michel,

I don't know about all of the Seismic Design Manuals, but Simpson and Hilti (and probably others) have ICBO ER documents which can be found on the web. There are example calcs. in some of them. There is also the software from these two suppliers which produces fairly well-documented results (e.i it shows the calculations). Not only that, you don't have to go looking for the errata like you do with the SDMs.

HTH
MJ

----- Original Message ----
From: Michel Blangy <mblangy@satco-inc.com>
To: seaint@seaint.org
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 4:07:20 PM
Subject: Seismic Design Manual Examples

Do any of the examples cover anchorage to concrete per 318 App. D?

Michel Blangy, P.E.