Thursday, April 26, 2007

RE: Manufactured housing foundations

It is odd, but not surprising that a HUD funded document in 1996 is not
consistant with a HUD document in 1999. The 1999 document gives tables and
examples of dry stack CMU, but provides for angled tie downs and height
limits for the dry stack CMU. The 1996 document does not have that much on
the tie downs.

BTW there is also FEMA 85 which gives guidance for foundations for
manufactured homes in flood plains.

Regards,
Harold Sprague

>From: "Gary Loomis" <gloomis@MasterEngineersinc.com>
>Reply-To: <seaint@seaint.org>
>To: <seaint@seaint.org>
>Subject: RE: Manufactured housing foundations
>Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:37:19 -0400
>
>This is not consistent with Section 503-4, Masonry Piers and Walls of
>the "Permanent Foundations Guide for Manufactured Housing" prepared by
>US Dept. of Housing and Urban Development, dated September 1996. It
>states "All masonry piers and walls shall have mortared beds and head
>joints".
>
>www.huduser.org/Publications/pdf/foundation_guide_complete.pdf
>
>Our experience when HUD financing was involved, they would not accept
>dry stacked block even on homes installed before September 1996.
>
>We went to HUD with a request to use a surface bonding agent and they
>accepted this in lieu of the mortared joints. A letter stamped by a PE
>with backup calculations for dry stacked piers rejected.
>
>Suggest you check with the finance company to determine the
>requirements.
>
>Gary W. Loomis, P.E., Senior Structural Engineering
>Master Engineers and Designers, Inc.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Harold Sprague [mailto:spraguehope@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:16 PM
>To: seaint@seaint.org
>Subject: Re: Manufactured housing foundations
>
>Jordan,
>
>According to HUD, dry stack CMU is allowed.
>Reference: http://www.pathnet.org/sp.asp?id=1003
>for the Manufactured Homes Installation Training Manual.
>
>It is a pretty good document representing practices and engineered
>solutions. HUD sponsored this and participated in the development. The
>
>Manufactured Homes Insititute also participated.
>
>Regards,
>Harold Sprague
>
>
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Truesdell, PE"
> ><seaint1@truesdellengineering.com>
> >To: <seaint@seaint.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:42 AM
> >Subject: Manufactured housing foundations
> >
> >
> >>Is anyone out there familiar enough with the PFGMH to know if there
>are
> >>any interpretations or modifications which allow the use of unmortared
>
> >>(dry stacked) CMU piers? Also, is there an interpretation which allows
>the
> >>exterior of the piers to be covered in a cementitious compound in lieu
>of
> >>mortared bed joints?
> >>
> >>--
> >>Jordan
>
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