Saturday, April 7, 2007

Re: Stone house

Thanks Harold,
I prefer to call him the Great Engineer. I think I will take your
approach and design it as masonry. Given your replies in the past, I
think I owe you several cases of beer but it will have to be Canadian beer.
Gary

Harold Sprague wrote:
> I struggled with this a while back. The reality is that structural
> stone walls are the oldest building material that there is. There are
> stone structures in seismic areas that have been there for thousands
> of years. The Parthenon is in a relatively high seismic area and is
> still standing and it has no reinforcing. The Great Pyramid at Giza
> is still standing. It also is not reinforced, but rebar wasn't widely
> used in masonry until the 20th century.
>
> Stone was manufactured a long time ago, but the Manufacturer (note
> cap) does not have an advocate in the code development community.
> However, the Manufacturer of stone also created the environmental
> forces including gravity that the stone must resist.
>
> Not having an advocate means that there is no representation on the
> MSJC and therefore no specific provisions in the ACI 350 nor the
> building code. That said, why can't it be designed as masonry? You
> can still put rebar in it, and you can still determine an f'm. Design
> it as reinforced masonry. After all CMU is just a lot of stones glued
> together. Bricks are very tiny stones mashed together than cooked.
> The code does not specifically preclude designing with reinforcing in
> stone. You just have to do a lot more engineering without a lot of
> guidance.
>
> You will also have to use your judgment regarding cover, but it should
> not be much different than CMU regarding porosity.
>
> Look on the bright side. With no specific code on reinforced stone
> masonry, who can tell you that you are wrong? Of course if the
> Manufacturer tells you that you are wrong the lightning strike can
> leave a nasty mark.
>
>
> Regards,
> Harold Sprague
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: "Gary L. Hodgson and Assoc." <ghodgson@bellnet.ca>
>> Reply-To: <seaint@seaint.org>
>> To: seaint@seaint.org
>> Subject: Re: Stone house
>> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 06:35:22 -0400
>>
>> Fellow listers,
>> I was asked yesterday by a regular client if I could design a stone
>> house for him-field stone. Give him credit, he also asked if he
>> should build a house out of stone. This is new to me and I wonder if
>> anyone out there has any words of wisdom or warning.
>> Gary
>>
>>
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