Thursday, November 5, 2009

Re: Contracting through Architect

Jordan:
 
Thank you. My concern was not, at all, about the payment or money, etc. Here, I could not do a project through an unlicensed person, unless I notify the owner and have a written agreement with him. At least this is what the Board has made us believe. I could not even have a contract with a General Contractor to do engineering without involving the owner.
 
I agree with you. People can call themselves anything they want, as long as they are not trying to sell themselves as one.
 
Thank you,

Farzin S. Rahbar, SE
David C. Weiss Structural Engineer & Associates, Inc.
(818) 227-8040 Ex. 13 Fax: (818) 227-8041
 
In a message dated 11/5/2009 1:04:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, seaint2@truesdellengineering.com writes:
(Farzin...this isn't aimed at you, I just chose your post to reply to out of the several with similar sentiment)

That may not be the case everywhere about calling yourself an architect.  I'm not certain, but I believe you may call yourself an "Architect" just as freely as you may call yourself an "Engineer" or a "Doctor."  You may not (a) offer the public architectural services or (b) call yourself a Registered Architect unless you are licensed to practice architecture.

In Virginia, anyone may design up to 4 unit residential buildings. We contract with designers, RAs, owners and contractors depending on the conditions.  We use our own terms, and everything is either due on receipt or net 15 - never pay when paid (though we have several regular customers for whom we don't charge late fees when the client has not paid them...but that's another story).  Regardless, with an unlicensed designer we provide a separate structural package which delineates the scope and limitations on every page. We've only been burned once in 7 years on payment from an architect, and in that case we would have been stiffed had we contracted directly with the owner. At least in that case, the architect footed the legal bill to take the owner to court.

Take my advice with a grain of salt - I live in a small town, and everybody knows everybody else. I'm also one of only four or five full time, independent SEs for a pretty big area. We all know each other and we're all friends (professionally, at least) - your projects would get much more difficult if we all decided you were a financial risk to work for.

Jordan


FSRahbar@aol.com wrote:
Michel:
 
First of all, if he or she is unlicensed, the would not be an architect. may be a designer.
 
As far as I know, at least in California, a professional engineer may not have a contract with an unlicensed. You must have a written agreement with the owner.
 
Farzin S. Rahbar, SE
David C. Weiss Structural Engineer & Associates, Inc.
(818) 227-8040 Ex. 13 Fax: (818) 227-8041
 
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