Thursday, August 13, 2009

RE: A53 pipe substitution for HSS pipe brace

Drew,

This probably isn't a simple problem. Is this a SCBF? If so, strengthening the brace will mean recalculating many of the other members (columns, beams and braces). The same may be true of other lateral force resisting systems.

MJ


--- On Mon, 8/10/09, Glenn Otto <ggator1256@cox.net> wrote:

> From: Glenn Otto <ggator1256@cox.net>
> Subject: RE: A53 pipe substitution for HSS pipe brace
> To: seaint@seaint.org
> Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 7:11 PM
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> Drew,
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> I don't
> know what members are doing what and what the symmetry
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> possible in your case to calculate what stresses the
> eccentricity(?) introduce
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> From: Drew
> Morris
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> To: SEAINT
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> Subject: A53
> pipe substitution for
> HSS pipe brace
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> a HSS5.00x0.250 round brace was cut 12" too
> short.  The
> contractor/fabricator cannot apparently find another piece
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> available.  The piece is only about 14 feet long and
> is part of a 2-story
> X braced bay.  They have asked whether they can use a
> piece of 5" STD
> A53 pipe instead.  For the HSS, RyFyAg = 205.2
> k.  For the A53,
> RyFyAg = 292.3k.  I can increase the throat of weld of
> the brace to the
> gusset plate, but I'll end up with a non-symmetrical
> brace configuration. 
> Any comments or suggestions?
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