Thursday, August 13, 2009

Re: A53 pipe substitution for HSS pipe brace

We ended up using a pair of HSS4x4x1/4 for the upper braces.  Both levels are at flexible diaphragms, so I avoided having to do another rigid diaphragm analysis.  The gusset plate is a little over-designed, otherwise it works.

Mark Johnson wrote:
Drew,  This probably isn't a simple problem.  Is this a SCBF?  If so, strengthening the brace will mean recalculating many of the other members (columns, beams and braces).  The same may be true of other lateral force resisting systems.  MJ   --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Glenn Otto <ggator1256@cox.net> wrote:    
From: Glenn Otto <ggator1256@cox.net> Subject: RE: A53 pipe substitution for HSS pipe brace To: seaint@seaint.org Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 7:11 PM                           Drew,       I don't know what members are doing what and what the symmetry problem is, but is it possible in your case to calculate what stresses the eccentricity(?) introduce to the members and sum those with the intended ones?       A Structural Engineer, P.C.   Glenn C. Otto, P.E.   Virginia Beach, VA        -----Original Message-----  From: Drew Morris [mailto:dmorris@bbfm.com]  Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:47 PM  To: SEAINT  Subject: A53 pipe substitution for HSS pipe brace      I have a case where a HSS5.00x0.250 round brace was cut 12" too short.  The contractor/fabricator cannot apparently find another piece that is easily available.  The piece is only about 14 feet long and is part of a 2-story X braced bay.  They have asked whether they can use a piece of 5" STD A53 pipe instead.  For the HSS, RyFyAg = 205.2 k.  For the A53, RyFyAg = 292.3k.  I can increase the throat of weld of the brace to the gusset plate, but I'll end up with a non-symmetrical brace configuration.  Any comments or suggestions?              
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