Thursday, November 5, 2009

Re: Contracting through Architect

With my simple one-man firm I've made things really easy. Only contract
with owners & billing is COD. And around here there is almost always a
final observation letter, so I hold that until final payment. Life's too
short to spent it chasing payment.
Chuck Utzman, P.E.

David L. Fisher wrote:
>
> The dearth is because most archys are terrible about money.
>
> They are afraid to ask the owners for it…and when they get it, they
>
> Keep it.
>
> I have a client that did exactly that…he got paid by the owner
>
> (who was a friend of mine) and I */_knew_/* he got paid.
>
> I confronted the architect about and called me "unprofessional"
>
> David L. Fisher SE PE
>
> Senior Principal
>
> Fisher and Partners
>
> 372 West Ontario
>
> Suite 301
>
> Chicago 60654
>
> 312.622.0409 (m)
>
> 312.573.1701
>
> 312.573.1726 (f)
>
> www.fpse.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Rhkratzse@aol.com [mailto:Rhkratzse@aol.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 05, 2009 1:59 PM
> *To:* mblangy@satco-inc.com; seaint@seaint.org
> *Subject:* Re: Contracting through Architect
>
> I would also be somewhat leery, or at least *careful*, when
> contracting with an owner through a "representative." Depending on how
> large a project is, and whether it justifies the overhead of an
> attorney-reviewed specific contract (most of mine don't), and who the
> rep is -- licensed, unlicensed, or just the client's brother who
> happens to be out of work at the moment -- such an arrangement *might*
> be acceptable.
>
> BTW there appears to be a dearth of "pro" comments about contracting
> with an architect. ;)
>
> Ralph
>
> In a message dated 11/5/09 11:40:53 AM, mblangy@satco-inc.com writes:
>
> From PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS ACT (Business and Professions Code §§ 6700
> – 6799)
>
> "The written contract shall be executed by the professional engineer
> and the client,_ or his or her representative,_ prior to the
> professional engineer commencing work,.."
>
> What would constitute a "representative?"
>
> > As far as I know, at least in California, a professional engineer may
> not have a contract with an unlicensed. You must have a written
> agreement with the owner.
>


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